March Badness of Corruption (Rd. 1)

Join our hosts, Tim and Taber, as they initiate the first ever Pardon the Corruption March Badness Tournament.  Through semi-careful selections, they have selected the 16 most corrupt politicians.  The left bracket consists of 8 Democrats and the right side of the bracket consists of 8 Republicans. In this first round, the upper side of the left and right sides of the bracket are discussed and winners will be determined.  However, listeners and viewers will ultimately decide through comment votes and polls that will be sent to our social media accounts (@timntaber).  Continue to join us as we go through the bracket of corruption and narrow it down to an elite 8, final 4, and the overall Champion of the 2026 March Badness of Corruption.  

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Paula Jones. Paula Jones. Sexual harassment lawsuit against old Billy Boy. Did he lose that? He did.$850,000. We probably paid for that. The old scoop and tickle. What?

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Mr. Tim the Hunter. Waltz. So Tim the Hunter. The Hunter. He put tampons in boys' bathrooms. Big fail. It's ridiculous and should never ever happen anywhere. He clearly doesn't have a problem wasting taxpayer dollars. We're going to start off round one on the Democrat side of the bracket. The matchup first is Bill Clinton versus Tim Waltz. Tim Waltz. Moving Tim Waltz to the winner's bracket. Moving Tim Waltz. Okay. Bill Clinton versus Tim Waltz. Okay. We're going to go with Bill Clinton first. The first thing that comes to mind is the infamous blue dress slash cigar incident. That isn't necessarily corruption. But that's messed up.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Monica Bluinsky.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Moving along to Whitewater, this was apparently a land fraud deal that apparently is corrupt.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

Yeah. There's corruption written all over it. Whitewater was a failed Arkansas real estate venture from the 1970s that evolved into a massive multi-year federal investigation into both Bill and Hillary Clinton. And the controversy was that McDougal's bank, which later collapsed, uh costed or costed? Cost. A costed? It accosted the taxpayers. It cost it cost the taxpayers every day. Yeah. Um, no, it cost the taxpayers 73 million dollars.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Okay, so we're three can three not conspiracies, we're three corruption events, I guess. Uh we're three corruptions. Controversies? Scandals? Three scandals and three scandals deep. Okay, so we have Monica Lewinsky, cigar dress. We have white water, we have Paula Jones. Paula Jones. Paula Jones.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Sexual harassment lawsuit against old Billy Boy. Yep, sexually harassed. Did he lose that? He did eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Okay. And if I had to guess, we probably paid for that.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Yeah. For sure. We paid that. That's where the taxpayers get accosted. Um the old scoop and tickle. What? Okay. Scoop and tickle.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Okay. It's a highly effective play in the NBA. I don't know if you know.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

No, but I'd love to see it. So what what else? What else we got? Because we we know we're coming up to the big fat dog in the room, and that's Epstein. But what else? Travelgate.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Travelgate. Where the Clintons fired up all of the White House travel office and said, you know who I think should work here? My nephew. Oh. Actually, friends of theirs or something. But what do they call that? Nepotism? Nepotism is what it is. Always works out well. It did. Okay. Or there's the the dishes where they stole all the dishes when they got kicked out of the White House minor, but you know. So for the sake of time.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Let's jump right into Epstein. Do we think that Clinton is guilty of anything illegal?

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Ooh. That's a good way to word that. Um is he guilty of anything illegal? Sure looks like he is. Probably. Probably having sexual uh relations with Monica Lewinsky, so it's gonna be hard to pin him on for sure.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

A younger person, but so you think that he he has been with minors? Minors, for sure. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

So then you think that it's possible that he has done something with more more than one Monica Bluinsky. Okay. So so we have um a lot of the Bill Clinton when Monica Lewinsky when that happened.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

How old was she? I think she was in her mid-twenties.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Um that's not illegal, but it is kind of gross. So there is the gross factor.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Billy Boy was fifty-two years old. 52 years old. Monica Lewinsky, 21. I'm gonna say he definitely had some younger, uh, certainly younger than him by quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Well, he had an affinity for younger ladies. Yeah, clearly.

unknown 5:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

I mean, let's be honest. Like where there's smoke, there's fire. You know, we we'll probably never know, and they'll probably never know.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

No doubt at all that he was on the island, though. Like he was on the island, he was on the plane. Definitely provable. Prove in, it's prove in that he was on the island and the uh the plane. So Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead with with probably minors.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

I think the rule should be that you can't date somebody that you could mathematically be their father.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

I think that's a fair rule.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Yeah. I mean, and you know, anyway.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

Maybe that should change the law to that.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Yeah. I mean, any any guy with a daughter is going to agree with well, most guys with a daughter.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Yeah, I wonder what Mark Lewinsky's dad thinks about old Billy Boy. I like to call him Billy Boy because it makes him seem like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Well, I like to call him Big Willie, but Big Willy.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Reminds me of Smith.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Uh but I I I don't know. I mean, I'm sure that her dad was not pleased in the beginning, and he's probably not pleased now. But dollars getting exchanged probably ease the pain. Yeah, it could ease the pain. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

I don't know if I don't think it would it wouldn't help me. I'd be like, No.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Oh, I think I just would be like you can take your money, and I let's be clear. I'm not a la I'm not alleging or accusing Monica Lewinsky's dad of getting any money. Period. No. I'm gonna lean towards he is pissed and probably hates Bill Clinton if he's still with us. So moving on to Bill Clinton's opponent, Mr. Tim the Hunter Waltz. So Tim the Hunter. The hunter. We're going to just go basic with Tim Waltz. We're gonna start off with an easy one. And the fact that he put tampons in boys' bathrooms uh is is a big fail and um sends a wrong message and is just stupid. So very stupid. I don't know how much more you can say about that other than it's ridiculous and should never ever happen.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

That's like a total waste of taxpayer dollars just from I mean, well, he clearly doesn't have a problem wasting taxpayer dollars. No, like as far as a fraud front, he's he's got Bill Clinton smoked.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Of course, Nick Shirley started the whole process of outing Tim Waltz and the rest of the Minnesota legislature, likely, and Mayor Fry in Minneapolis. Right now, that could be to the tune of what the last I heard was nine billion, but I don't know. It's above that. So uh nine billion in fraud to fake Somali daycares. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

And another separate issue for Medicaid fraud with speech therapy centers and social services centers, another nine billion to that. So is there's two separate fraud cases.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

18 billion in fraud that we know of. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

And then over the weekend, um, I don't know if that if Tim Walls has been like linked to this yet, but um there's multiple Somali gangs who apparently have been robbing dealerships and took uh I think it was forty forty million in um in like high-end vehicles from and they were just shipping them over to like Somali drug lords and right. No big deal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah, nothing. So we're you know very high into the double digits of billions, likely.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

And they're like, you know, you know what would be good if I could get that hundred thousand dollar Tahoe over to my buddy in Somalia.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

So we have$18,$20 billion in debt, or not debt, but fraud. The next thing is basically weaponizing or attempting to weaponize your state National Guard against the federal government. So basically an uprising.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

Uh yeah, not to mention weaponizing it against your own citizens. I mean, he did that during COVID and uh the George Floyd riots, too. So, I mean, if you go like neck and neck, I would Bill Clinton's obviously like more influential, but Tim Walls is like on a corruption scale, I think he's got the he's got the uh the game-winning goal here.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

Tim Waltz is clearly the winner. Now, Bill Clinton is probably a disgusting human being. For our next matchup on the Republican side of the bracket, we have the number one seed, George W. Bush and Lisa Murkowski, who is the senator for Alaska. First thing out of the gate is the WMD argument for Iraq. They basically, after 9-11, came out and said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. And it was pretty much the basis of the whole war. So obviously they've they later discovered that they didn't have weapons of mass destruction. So they essentially lied, I guess, to get Congress to move forward and make a declaration of war. And turned out that it was not true. Um, so like I said, I think we would have gone to war anyway, but that is corrupt if you feel like you need to lie about the basis for war, especially after we were attacked on 9-11, which carries a whole other realm of corruption. Well, conspiracy for sure.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

I would say that's probably one we maybe should have ended with because it's like obvious that that cost American lives. But there's other things that Bush was involved in. Like there was the before Nancy Pelosi came along and made insider trading just like the everyday thing, there was insider trading allegations against him, um, which he wind up being cleared of, but there was insider trading. There's all kinds of crap with him. But I mean, there's no doubt that like that's the biggest one for sure. Weapons of mass destruction and you know, costing countless Americans their lives.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

So, you know. I think that there's a lot of questions still to be answered about 9-11.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

Um Yeah, I was gonna say 9-11 might be, you know, if you buy, if you buy into which I I don't I don't necessarily buy into the fact that like Bush was involved or our government even was necessarily involved. I'm certainly not ruling either one of those out. But um the official story doesn't make any sense at all. So, you know, I would say that that's up there too.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

That's we don't have any proof of that, of course. Yeah. Um, but there's plenty, there's plenty of evidence to suggest that not every question's been answered. So um we have that, we have 9-11 conspiracies, we have the West weapons of mass destruction. There's not a lot of there's there's not a lot of other things I can really think about with George Bush. Lisa Murkowski is is one of the Republicans that is voting against the SAVE Act.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

She was named among a delegation of embroiled in broader corruption investigations. Delegation. She was named along among Alaska delegation that was embroiled in broader corruption investigations tied to oil interests. She, though, was not charged or convicted.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Well, they never are, are they?

unknown 13:25

No.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Yeah. We investigated ourselves and we did nothing wrong. Found that there's nothing here. So turns out I was right. Campaign finance scrutiny has always been an issue with her. But you know, if you're gonna like be in the oil and gas industry or be like the oil Alaska, everybody likes oil and gas in Alaska because all the Alaskan citizens get paid right by the oil companies like$2,000 a year just for letting them drill there. So um, yeah, I mean, I'm sure she's gonna be. Is that everybody? Like if I moved to Alaska, I would start getting money. Yep. I think you gotta live there for I think it's a year or two years or something before you start getting it. If you're like a new citizen of Alaska. But yeah, anybody who's been there for more I think it's more than two years gets$2,000 a year for having oil wells in the state.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Okay. I think Lisa Murkowski was pretty weak, to be honest. Like it sounds like there's some corruption there, but um, uh I regret that she's on the bracket at this point, but she's there. So uh I mean now the people that that vote might feel differently. They may know obviously more about Lisa Murkowski than we know. So she's voting against the Save Act, I'm guessing. She doesn't think that uh that we should have legal elections and the Coast Guard.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Yeah, I saw her on uh uh whatever it was, CNN when they were asking her um why you're voting against, and she said it was gonna disenfranchise millions of Alaskans.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Disenfranchise? What does that mean? Yeah. So George Bush, moving on to the next round. Okay, next matchup, moving back over to the Democrat side of the house. Joe Biden versus Gavin Newsom.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Biden's got a much longer track record, and he's already made his whole family rich. Gavin's kind of like the newbie. Gavin Newsome reminds me of that that guy on uh the blonde kid on Harry Potter, the Slytherin guy. Slytherin clan.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Yeah, he's like really blonde-headed.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Yeah. Yeah. Um that's what that's what he reminds me of. I think it's because of the haircut. Like they're both got their hair slicked back. Like, dude. Yeah. He looks like Danny Zuko in Greece.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Here's here's where I struggle with Joe Biden. I do believe the man was corrupt. He was in politics too long to not be corrupt. Right. But during during his presidency, I he I don't know how many of those decisions he actually made. Now, I'm not giving him a an out.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

Are we talking about Joe Biden like pre-cognitive issues? Or up to the end? Because you could argue, like I mean, he definitely was like, you know, Hunter Biden was like a oil executive, and the guy I don't think he knows anything about maybe the most exposure he's had to oil is maybe using it to using some ether to cut a coke or something. Like I don't yeah. I don't know that he I don't even know. Do you use it? Maybe all of his prostitutes. I think I got that off of like uh what's that movie with Mel Gibson and Danny Glover? Ethel Weapon. I think I got that ether comment off of there. I don't even do you actually I don't know anything about cocaine.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Well, there is the whole the whole Ukraine thing. I mean the barisma uh that was the name of it, right? Barisma oil and gas or something. Yeah, and they he threatened the prosecutor or you know basically said don't don't prosecute my or my son or whatever the case was, had something to do with a lot of money. But that was I mean, and then there's all the ties to China. Like you you can't you can't deny based on the wealth that he ended up with, just like with Tim Waltz, you know, all this involvement with China and being so doing so many things globally that is in China's favor, you can't help but to think that he's corrupt and that he's in in the back pocket of the Chinese. I mean, even even if he wasn't cognitive, uh doesn't really matter. I mean, if I go and assault somebody and act like I'm where am I? Yeah. My ass is gonna be in jail. So I mean, I think that the man is incredibly racist, by the way. I mean, well, his past legislation has, you know, he he was uh he back in the day, he was all for uh the the with the the crime bills and you know mass imprisonment and and yeah all that.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Did you see the Gavin Newsom when he was like, you know, I'm I'm I'm just like you. I got like a two on my SATs. Oh whatever you're like, yeah, what the f what did you just say?

SPEAKER_01 18:22

He's like I eat stacks of the rainbow bread or or whatever. Like he is the biggest snake. Yeah, he always tries to pander to the crowd that he's talking to, which is normal politicians, but he takes it to an another level. Yeah, like an insulting level. Right. You got the the palisades burning down, people still can't rebuild their houses. They don't they don't want to admit that it's a lack of forest mitigation, they don't want to admit that it's a lack of water because you're trying to save little fish. And so people continually get hurt. I mean, he's basically destroyed the entire state of California, if that was even possible. I mean, Democrats have led California for decades, and who thought it could get worse? And he actually achieved worse. Now, I don't know of specific things that he is guilty of corruption-wise, but he's just enough of a snake to where I'm like, I would believe anything.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

What's the the rail system? The high-speed rail?

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Yeah, that they they dip built a mile of track.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Yeah. There's the PGE relationship, wildfire liability, criticism over ties to Pacific Gas and Electric Company responsible for the deadly wildfires. Newsom supported a bailout framework to keep the utility company solvent. Of course he did. COVID contracts and spending, emergency no bid contracts during the pandemic and massive state spending with limited oversight resulted in many people, either his friends or other people getting uh um no, there was no proven criminal charges or kickbacks, but a lot of his um vendors that he was like his favorite vendors were awarded contracts that were, you know, on-the-fly contracts, and then there was a lot of fraud uh involved in it. Um he spent billions of dollars with um trying to to cure homelessness, and there's a higher percentage of homeless people after billions of dollars were spent and the homeless problem was obviously not solved. And they're crapping in the streets in San Francisco.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yeah. Well then let's not forget that his close ties with China and how he was basically bending knee to China during the Biden administration. Everything about Gavin Newsom to me, this guy is a snake. And that is my opinion, and I'm sure that millions of people would agree with me.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

It's weird though, like on the Democrat side, there are always all of the allegations, not all of the allegations, but all the recent allegations, it's all about like money and fraud, and usually about COVID. So I'm sure there's probably some COVID fraud allegations on the right, but on the left, on the left, it seems like they are more uh heavily influenced by or not heavily influenced, heavily laden with um COVID policy, or like either taking money from COVID funds or abusing COVID lockdown policies.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

I'm leaning, I'm leaning more towards Gavin Newsom. I haven't heard anything that suggests that he's in the Epstein files or anything like that. But don't you agree that he is just the guy? Like, if you were to say, describe somebody that you think would be on Epstein Island. Definitely description.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Yeah. I mean, just in a traditional political corruption sense, he's got like Insider trading, or not insider trading, I mean insider access to like government contracts. He's got the donor relationships like what he did with um Panera Bread. You know, they raise the the minimum wage in in California to, I think whatever it is,$20 an hour,$25 an hour for everybody except for Panera Bread, who he's like best friends with the CEO of Panera Bread, and they only have to pay their employees like$12 an hour. Like he's just a total hypocrite. Like everything that he um and he's he's super slimy, man. He's a jellyfish.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

He's an absolute jellyfish. So I got nothing else to say. My opinion is Gavin Newsom is a flat out winner here, is more corrupt than Joe Biden. And I'm only going that way because of the cognitive. I think Joe Biden was a useful idiot in his, you know, during his administration, even though I think he also did a lot of damage before he was a useful idiot. And even then, he might have been a useful idiot. So unless you want to make an argument for Joe Biden, I'm going with Gavin Newsom. I agree.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

Biden, I don't think Biden was even making like, you know, running his own show the last four years. I think he was completely out of it. So Newsom, it is.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Okay, so we have our top bracket winners. And we will move over to the Republican side for the final match today. Dan Crenshaw and Dick Cheney.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

I think this is a solid matchup. Dan Crenshaw and Dick Cheney are both different era people, but they are like defense contractor ties, check, you know, warmgers kind of sort of check. I mean, there's a I think this is a good one. This is a good matchup.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Okay. So first we're gonna start with Dan Crenshaw. What do we got on Dan?

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Dan Crenshaw kind of brands himself as like a straight shooter. That's his thing.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

But he's like blind in one eye.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

And so I think that like shooter.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

First off, you can't aim. Right. Which Dick Cheney has in common with him, you know. Like he shot his buddy.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

If that's his firing eye that's not gone, then he has an advantage. Maybe. Maybe. But he's got no peripherals. But yeah, exactly. So, but anyway, so he is he does come across as this straight shooter. He uh in after an interview once, he he's I'm pretty sure it was him where he said he wanted to he couldn't stand Tucker Carlson or whatever, and I can't some days either. But um he also had a recent beef with Sean Ryan. I guess they were both on the teams. So they apparently they had some sort of beef, and Dan Crenshaw, I think, wanted him to take something down off of his podcast or whatever, and and you know, Sean Ryan just basically came out and said, I'm not gonna do what he says. And then a lot of the special uh or the spec ops slash teams community came out firing against Dan Crenshaw. And uh so yeah, he I don't know how he got into this.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Yeah, he's a Republican, but I don't know anybody. I mean, you're in the you were in the military, and I was like briefly in the military. I don't I didn't know very many people in the military that were like liberal. Um I didn't either, but they mostly leaned conservative, and I would say the most most of them leaned conservative, and the rest of them were like hardcore conservative. So there was I didn't know very I knew like one guy, and apparently his name was Dan Crenshaw, because the guy is the most like liberal or left-leaning or whatever. I've never seen a Navy SEAL that that like votes the way he does or thinks the way he does. He's I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

Well, you got morons like uh Jason Crow and and Mark Kelly out there yapping too, which yeah, I think we'll probably get to them in this bracket. Uh yeah. For sure.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

But I mean, Dan Crenshaw, like I had a lot of high hopes for that guy when he got into the office into office, but he just turned out to be like a like I remember sharing some of the stuff he was saying on social media before he ever became a congressman, and I was like, oh, this guy's gonna be great, you know.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

And then he got in and was like, whoa, traitor, you know, like yeah, no, you jump from zero to traitor in like three seconds. So what what corruption is he involved with? Is there anything that's on the books as far as corruption, or are we just saying you're a douchebag?

SPEAKER_00 26:29

No, he's got some corruption stuff. He's like heavily backed. Um probably because he's in you know, SEAL teams or whatever, but he's heavily backed by uh defense contractors. Most of his most of his donors are defense contractors. Why would that be, I wonder? Um, I mean, I don't know, get in and vote for going to war, becoming a warmonger. That's what I think him and Cheney have in have in common. I mean, like, you know, Cheney with the whole oh, we'll get to Cheney, I guess, in a second, but Cheney with the Halliburton, um, what was Halliburton's division? I can't remember what KBR. KBR, yeah, their construction division, you know, them getting a bunch of contracts, and that was like a oh yeah, we'll go to war. Yeah, bomb all the buildings. We don't need those buildings, we're gonna build new ones.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

Yeah, um yeah, I worked around some of those guys in Iraq. But did you? I mean, in Iraq, but during Desert Storm.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Yeah, that's he's gonna use you to guard them while they build the new buildings.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

Yeah, and these guys were making a ton of money.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like, that's a that's to me, they both have the defense contractor backing and they're kind of warmongers and want you to like what they want to get involved in all these foreign conflicts because it, you know, got to sell the bullets and the bombs and the whatever else. Um he's been accused of of buying votes, you know. The special interest groups have been like um, he was kind of known as like an outsider when he started, and now he's like very much a Washington, D.C. insider that can be bought. Um so I think that that's like the biggest things with him. Is he against the Save Act? Uh I don't know where he's at on the Save Act. Actually, I haven't haven't heard much from him. Um, but he's he was for, you know, like he's he didn't side with the Republicans during the Ukraine-Russia deal. He was all all on the left and back in um backing us. Yeah, yeah. He but it was all I mean, that's what I mean when I say warmonger. Like anytime there's like, oh, conflict? Yeah, no, I'm for it. You know, it doesn't matter which side it is, he's he's voting for the conflict. Those defense contractors have deep pockets. That's the same thing with with Cheney. I mean, he was Cheney was the the Halliburton connection because he was the former CEO and he drove the whole KBR rebuilding Iraq thing. He drove the the WMD Iraq war deal, used the industry influence for the um energy task force or whatever secrecy thing that that that whole no transparency there or whatever there's a bunch of stuff, but both of them let's not forget the big one.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

He shot somebody in the face.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Yeah, yeah. So Dan Crenshaw's a straight shooter. Cheney's more of a friend shooter, you know. Yeah, he's more of a bird shot guy. Yeah. Whoopsie. That was that could have been one of those Clinton things, though, you know, like I was aiming for his head, but since he didn't die, it was an accident. Yeah, oops.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

Should have called Crenshaw. I'm not as good as the Clintons on unaliving people. So I think that Dick Cheney edges out Dan Crenshaw just for the fact that well, he shot a guy in the face. Uh, he had the whole KBR thing, that was a big scandal. And um, you know, he's involved with the Bush administration and the Patriot Act, which is the biggest violation of our constitution. And uh so since he was probably involved with the Patriot Act, I'm gonna give the nod to him.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

If you go corporate ties, uh, you know, Crenshaw's got like uh defense contractors, he's uh but moderate ties. I mean, they don't really influence, they don't seem to influence that much, whereas Cheney had like very strong ties with you know weapons of mass destruction causing a war and KBR rebuilding and all that stuff. Cheney all the way. Definitely Cheney wins it. But I don't I think that they're both in on most of it. It's just who's more corrupt.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

So we have first round on the Democrat side, we had Bill Clinton versus Tim Waltz. In our personal opinion, Tim Waltz is just slightly more corrupt than Bill Clinton, but your votes are really what's going to matter. The other matchup that we had today was Gavin Newsome and Joe Biden, and we both agree that Gavin Newsome edges out Joe Biden just for the fact that we don't know how much Joe Biden really did cognitively. So the winners moving on in the Democrat bracket on the top half of the bracket are Tim Waltz and Gavin Newsome. So we'll be doing that matchup next time. On the Republican side, we had George Bush and Lisa Murkowski, and George Bush edged her out by quite a waste because we don't know much about Lisa Murkowski. Uh and then the final matchup we did today was Dan Crenshaw and Dick Cheney. Moving on to the Elite Eight are Tim Waltz versus Gavin Newsome and George Bush versus Dick Cheney. Yeah. That's them. So be looking for our next episode. And between now and then, we hope everybody that listens or watches this will give us a vote. We'll be sending out some polls to ask you what you think is the most corrupt politician that will move on to the Elite Eight. Stay Frosty.